Season 4: The Church is Dying!!...or is it?
The Church is Dying!!…or is it? Season 4: Episode 5

Norm Wakefield joins the podcast and share a meal in his home with Ted and Gray. Norm is now in his 80’s and served as a pastor and seminary professor for decades. His perspective on this season’s question: “The Church is Dead … Or, is it?” is pure “Norm” – gracious, relational, filled with wisdom … all coming from a heart to love and be loved by Jesus.